Monday, August 3, 2009

Hot Topic: A Dangerous Game


I tried to warn her but she didn’t listen. Now we are sitting at the police station recounting the sorry tale to a disinterested cop who is smirking and clearly thinks she was asking for it.

Three hours earlier we were getting ready for a night on the South American town where I had lived for 2 years. It was her first time in the country, it was summer, a Friday night and we just had to go out and sample the night life. Two “Gringas”, in our mid thirties, happy, confident and complimenting each other on how good we looked.

We had dinner first and then on to a bar. It was still early in the evening and so there were very few other customers. My companion made eye contact with two local guys across the room and winked at them. That was the only invitation they needed and a few seconds later they were at our side. I wasn´t interested and I quickly found out that my companion didn’t like them either but simply wanted to mess with them, get them to pay the bar tab and then we would leave.

“That’s not how it is here” I told her. “Don’t let them pay for the drinks, don’t let them think you are even remotely interested in sleeping with them” .

“Brush them off now I urged”.

She didn’t listen she was already half way to the dance floor with a warmed up macho man in tow. I blew the other guy out, made it clear I had no interest and then could only watch as my companion fired her man up even more with seductive dancing followed by hot passionate kissing.

Another drink, then another, then macho man decided it was time to take the lady home. As he was paying the tab she grabbed my arm saying “let’s get out of here”.

“Hey” macho man shouted, “come back!”.

She made a run for it but he grabbed her roughly. He had paid her bar tab and now he wanted what was due, he was expecting to have her company for the rest of the night. The scene turned ugly. Violent struggling, shouting, screaming and a flurry of obscenities followed. He didn’t hit her but he did make marks and bruises on her face and bare arms, he grabbed her breasts and called her a whore.

Somehow we broke away and ran into a cab. I flinched when I heard her demand the driver take us to the nearest police station. Through broken Spanish and angry tears she explained to the on duty officer what had happened. The cop had no idea why she was there, or what exactly she was complaining about.

She tried to explain to the police officer that in the U.S. that even if a man pays for drinks or dinner there was no foregone conclusion that his date was going to go home and have sex with him. This was a game she safely played every Friday night in her home town. See what you can get out of a guy then leave him hanging, it was fun, a sport. She was, what guys call, a prick tease. In the States a guy knows that if he pursues the “come on gone cold” and persists, he is likely to be arrested for sexual assault and then his life is pretty much over.

The rules are different here. You don’t play that game. You can’t give a guy a green light and then turn it to red and expect to get away lightly. Latino men will not take that kind of humiliation, they will try and collect their dues. The police will take an unprovoked sexual attack on a woman seriously but if she led him on, gave him the go and then called a halt it is likely she will be told to get out and stop wasting their time.

This time it stopped short of rape, others may not be so lucky and if that is the end result of playing the dangerous game then the victim should not expect a sympathetic response from the police.


What do you think of this situation? Was it a cultural misunderstanding or unacceptable behaviour? Did she get what she deserved? Should the guy have been arrested? Be sure to leave your comments for this post.

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18 comments:

  1. No man, in any country, likes being treated that way. Not on!
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  2. I think that many Americans assume that behavior acceptable at home is and should be acceptable everywhere else. I believe we should make an effort to familiarize ourselves with local customs and a bit of cultural norms before traveling to reduce the risk of cultural misunderstandings that might become dangerous.
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  3. She shouldn't be treating men like that in the first place- she's been playing a dangerous game in her own country all along, and it finally caught up with her when she decided to play it in a country and a culture that doesn't tolerate that kind of crap.
    She a) showed the usual American contempt and lack of respect and knowledge for a foreign country and culture, and b) didn't bother to find anything out about the types of people and their customs before she went there. It can save your life in certain parts of the world...
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  4. I think this article is bluntly informative to the novice traveler who has solely remained on US soil and never ventured outside the box. I run into numerous American travelers who patently assume that the social customs and practices in the US are somehow morally superior and proper and "should be" the practices globally. So I think this article has great value to dispell that narrow belief.
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  5. Only America could tolerate the arrogant gold digging behavior of American women. She deserved what she got.
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  6. As already pointed out - this woman has been engaging in fraud in her own country. But, of course, she does not deserve to be roughed up for it - she deserves simply to have a bad reputation.
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  7. Well, I can't say she got what she deserved but she is clearly a selfish and inconsiderate person. Why exactly are you hanging out with her?
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  8. More important that whether or not she deserved it is a different question: How did American culture get so F-ed up?
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  9. I think she got off light. It is too bad this behavior has not landed her in jail before now, it is just a form of extorcion. It is also too bad Americans go to other lands and act in the same shitty way they do at home. This type of person is part of th ugly American problem we all face when out of the US. Hope she learned something. likly not!!
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  10. My question is why would you subject yourself to having her as a friend? She not only put herself in danger, but she had you sitting there as an "unwilling maybe" accomplice.

    She makes all American women look bad because it sends the signal that we are all 'easy, loose and will do anything for a drink.' It's not true but I'm offended as an American woman that she remotely claims to be from my country.
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  11. Author's response to Georjina:

    This lady was not actually a friend, she was someone with whom I came into contact through mutual friends and I agreed to host her during her travels through Latin America. She stayed with me for 8 days and I was very happy when she left. It was not a positive experience for me. I have happily hosted many people from different parts of the world and have had good and bad experiences with people from different nations.

    This article was not an attack on American women, it was designed to highlight this cultural aspect which exists in many parts of Latin America and to educate female travelers of this potential danger.

    I stress that the men in the area where I live are perfect gentlemen in everyday life. But, lead them on in the way described in the article and you have a problem.
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  12. I think that all people who travel need to respect and abide by the customs, traditions and laws of the particular region or Country they are visiting - if one is uncomfortable with the accepted ways of any particular region, they should avoid traveling to that area. I don't really think that it is relevant what my personal views are regarding whether or not the behavior of the "friend" or of the "macho man" is acceptable. I think that the 'friend' was clearly warned by the Author, who was familiar with the culture, customs, etc.. of South America that "they don't do that here", yet she chose to ignore the advice/warning and went about doing her thing anyway (even though it was her visit to South America.) Therefore, IMO, she absolutely deserved what ever she got or might have got.

    I rarely stop and comment on these, but the general concept that the original post portrayed is just something that p*sses me off to no end. It is such a classic example of the disgusting arrogance and general mindset of so many Americans. I am also an American woman, but that does not mean that I share or approve of the general lack of sensitivity and total disrespect for the ways of "foreigners". Regardless of whether the "foreigner" is inside the US, or the American is in fact the "foreigner" inside a different country. I am appalled and disgusted to see the blatant double-standard(s) that too many seem to perceive as "normal" and acceptable.

    A common example and just a variation on the story originally posted, is the concept Whereby many Americans think that everybody in the US should speak English - and everybody elsewhere in the World should speak English as well when there is an American passing through and speaking English. (If a Hispanic person wants to be in the US, they had better learn to speak English! But by god, don't expect the American in Mexico to know one iota of Spanish!)

    Well, I guess I made my point. I'm sorry about the rant - just get so fed up sometimes though with so much unnecesary arrogance and lack of respect for anyone else. Again, sorry - I'm leaving the soapbox now..

    Take care all.
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  13. She had it coming, after all she provoked the guy.
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  14. I hope your friend stays home in her own country where her silly games are tolerated by the emasculated douchebags who let her get away with it.
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  15. After reading your story my wife and I got a good laugh. We lived in Durango, Durango Mexico for over six years. It is the Macho capitol of the world. Your lady guest would be well advised to pull her crap at home. What she did, happens all the time in places like Mazatlan.
    This kind of stuff leaves a bad taste in the mouths of many in Mexico and the rest of Latin America. In Mexico they put stupid women like this on planes and send them back where they belong.
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  16. this is exactly why i am not interssted in an american woman.
    She is only doing what 80% of american single wemen do.the remaining 20@ are married.
    If i see one more overweight,35 year old woman in sweats sitting at the bar here in Alaska thinking she owns us {men}I am going to have a fit.
    Moving to India.
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  17. now common! with all the poor guys she messed with while in the states, i think it would only have been fair she was the one abused this time. that would have taught her a lesson. this is no way to treat people, nevermind that she does it all the time, it's a terrible habit which means to me "i dont care about people". she toys with everyone all the time, why shall we have the respect to not toy with her too? as the saying goes, "never do to someone something you would not like"
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  18. That's unacceptable behavior on both their parts, to be honest. So what if both parties were interested in "dating" and he guy bought her one drink... does that entitle him to a good roll in the hay? And what if all she gave him was a phone number to call her later, does that entitle him to harass her?

    I think the comments here and their implications (as well as American bashing/pandering) are more disturbing than this story.

    I've dealt with men from Durango myself and let me tell you, I'd rather deal with rednecks from Gainsborough, NC than those from the macho capital of the world!
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